lars_vontrier (lars_vontrier) wrote in talkyourenglish,
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independency

Every country in the World has some administrative districts. I live in country where all districts are strongly subordinate with center - the capital Kyiv. Majority of the laws are raised (I am not sure I say right this word) in the capital. In Russia there are many autonomic states, because of national reason (Tatars, Ossetes, Chechenians etc.). USA has almost independent states. Why do states have so much freedom and independency from Washington? Was there some historic reasons of that? And do Canadian states have so much independency as in USA?
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It looks like the founding fathers made USA in defiance of UK. XD What the modern government do to centralize power? Give an example please. And one more question: Can some states theoretically leave USA?
Can some states theoretically leave USA?

This happened once. It was the start of our civil war.

It's considered treason now. (I'm not sure if it was then.) One State can't declare war on another State, either.

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Originally the USA was just 13 colonies of England. The colonies had to work together to win their independence from England, so they had to reach an agreement of what the laws of the new country would be. The people of the colonies were afraid of having a centralized authority, like a king, who could just do whatever s/he wanted. So they kept the borders of the colonies, and made them states. They set up a "balance of powers," so that no one could just do whatever they wanted. It was written into the Constitution, and that's the way it's stayed.
Sorry, I don’t know US history well. :(
Why did UK make in America several colonies instead of having the big one?
It's fine. To tell the truth I don't very much Russian history.

Well, every colony has it's own story behind it. Georgia was a penal colony named after King George. Florida means "little flower" in Spanish, and was originally a Spanish colony. People though that that was where the Fountain of Youth was. The US bought it from Spain. Massachusetts was founded by the Puritans, a religious group that were persecuted in England and came to America for religious freedom. Pennsylvannia means "Penn's woods." It was founded by William Penn, who was a Quaker and wanted a place for Quakers to live, though the Quakers welcomed everybody to live there. I don't know all the stories by heart :)

Anyhow, it just kind of... happened that way. Alot of times the King of England gave specific areas of land to someone, like he did with William Penn.
I see. Is that mean every community (like the Puritan) can occupy the territory and made its state? What state do you live?

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I was just giving the basics for those who weren't familiar with US history :) But yes, you're right. Over the years the power has gravitated toward certain centers, like corporations and the President.

I hadn't heard of the CA vs. the oil industry thing before :/ That's disturbing, to say the least.

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Go on, please! It’s very interesting for us.
Is California the most rebellious state?

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Every country in the 1.World has some administrative districts. I live 2.in country where all districts are strongly subordinate 3.with center - the capital Kyiv. 4.Majority of the laws are 5.raised (I am not sure 6.I say right this word) in the capital. In Russia there are many autonomic states, because of national 7.reason (Tatars, Ossetes, Chechenians etc.). 8.USA has almost independent states. Why do states have so much freedom and 9.independency from Washington? 10.Was there some historic reasons of that? And do Canadian states have so much 11. independency as in 12.USA?

1. "World" doesn't need capitalized unless it's the first word in the sentence.

2. You need an article here - "in a country"

3. Articles - "with a center" or "with one center" (The word "one" isn't an article, but it would make the sentence make more sense :) )

4. "The majority"

5. You can say "made" here. I can tell what you mean by "raised" but it doesn't sound right to me.

6. Try something like "I am not sure I am using the right word"

7. If you mean one reason, say "a national reason." If you mean more than one reason, say "national reasons".

8. The USA

9. Say "independence" here. I'm not sure "independency" is a word.

10. You've got some verb agreement and plural/singular agreement things going on here. Say "Was there some historical reason for this?" or "Were there some historical reasons for this?" (The word "historical" sounds better to me, I'm not sure why.)

11. Again, "independence" :)

12. the USA

By the way, in Canada they don't have states. They have provinces.
Thanks a lot!
7. I wanna tell that the reason is unique (not many). Russia has its states because of one reason – national. Must I tell there plural (reasons)?
8. Have I to use the articles even before geographical names? The Washington? What is the rule?
10. I don’t understand. It’s about using “this”? Explain please.
Do the provinces not the same as the states?
No problem :)

7. You can say "because of one unique reason" or "because of a unique reason". You only to use plural if you mean more than one reason.

8. No. The name of the country is "the United States of America," so you need to put "the USA" instead of just "USA".

10. Whoops, I didn't realise I changed that word, sorry!

Was there some historic reasons of that?
If you want to use plural, you need to change "was" to "were." If you want to singular, you need to change "reasons" to "reason." And I would say "for" instead of "of."

Provinces are different than states, but I'm not sure how.

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The are really bored with their ordered life, and that is why they simply try to entertain themselves legally, judicially!)

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Ha-ha!)
I don't actually remember, where I got this icon from, I can't find it anymore. I borrowed it somewhere on the Internet) It was a happy accident)
What did you mean?
It is very similar to procedure of elections in Ukraine. They do this in order to make fun)
Haha, you made me laugh with that one :)
:)
Hullo, Canadian Here!

Canada is a monarchy. A lot of out government is taken from UK's government, and we are overruled by the Queen. (Which is why people still say 'God save the Queen!' over here, even though she doesn't do much.)

The Queen does rule over everything, but she seriously doens't do much at all. Ever since we brought the constitution back in the early 1980's she can not manage our Federal Laws or Rights and Freedoms.

Canada has three levels of government, federal, provincial and municipal.

federal is canada
provincial is provinces
municipal is a district of 100,000 people

The provinces do have a lot of freedom. It is quite rare for the federal government (the prime minister, the mirror of America's President) to intervene on any Provincial business unless it is affecting Canada as a whole. In times as such, Canada has a nationwide provincial vote by respective premiers. Premiers, the leaders of each province, each vote on a federal agreement (something that will affect the nation). 10 out of the 13 provinces have to agree and one of the ten must be either Quebec or Ontario because of their dense population. This equals 50%. The fact that Ontario and Quebec hold such power has caused a lot of stress and jealousy in the past for the other lesser populated provinces.

The centralized colonial governments found they could not care to everyone's needs if they had to work from one place, such as Toronto or Ottawa. Each of Canada's provinces is so unique and has such different cultures, it would be almost impossible for just Stephen Harper alone to understand and help them all. And that's why we have provinces with such freedom.
Thanks a lot. Can some state leave Canada at all? Are the radical separatists in Quebec now?
Quebec has tried twice, officially, to depart from Canada. There are two sides to this debate in Quebec, 'Oui' (Yes) and 'Non, Merci' (No, Thank You). Both times Non won. There are many Quebecians that want segregation from Canada still to this day. Probably not as many as the 80's and 90's.

There is a day in Canadian history called The Night of the Long Knives. It explains a lot of Quebec resents the rest of Canada so much. When Pierre Trudeau (former prime minister) wanted to bring the constitution home from Britian, 8 provinces did not agree (they thought it would give too much power to just federal government). They were dubbed the Gang of Eight. They fought with Pierre Turdeau and Pierre Trudeau fought back, eventually scaring them by saying he would hold a referendum (canada was very much on pierre's side.) One night, the premier of Quebec went to his hotel, leaving the gang of eight at another. They had all agreed to hold their front, even if Pierre held a referendum. But that night, every premier from the Gang of Eight except Quebec's, changed their standing. They went behind Quebec's back and ripped up their signatures and never told Quebec.

On April 17, 1982, Queen Elizabeth II came to Canada to proclaim the new Constitution Act on Parliament Hill. On that day, René Lévesque, the premier of Quebec, ordered the Quebec flag to be flown at half-mast.

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